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# Episode 86: The Emergence of a Modern Learner and Learning Continuum

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Students are behaving like consumers, and are voting with their feet when it comes to finding the right institution that meet their needs. This means differentiating from traditional structures and listening deeply to learners and employers.

On this episode, Gary Hepburn, Dean of the G. Raymond Chang School of Continuing Education at Toronto Metropolitan University, discusses the emergence of the modern learner that will define higher education and the partnerships required to ensure a future-ready workforce. 

 

**Full Episode**

* Access the raw transcript [here.](https://illuminationbymoderncampus.buzzsprout.com/1802065/12355530-gary-hepburn-toronto-metropolitan-university-on-the-emergence-of-a-modern-learner-and-learning-continuum)*

[Listen on Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/3hXu2ictlccsgY9XIYGchi)  [Listen on Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/illumination-by-modern-campus/id1575912479)

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[Episode 255: The Liberal Arts Advantage in a Changing World](https://moderncampus.com/podcast/episode-255) 

[Learn More →](https://moderncampus.com/podcast/episode-255)

[![Episode 254: Why Higher Education Needs More On-Ramps and Off-Ramps](https://moderncampus.com/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/illumintation-by-modern-campus-Mar-13-2026-07-20-49-1429-PM.png) ](https://moderncampus.com/podcast/episode-254)

[Episode 254: Why Higher Education Needs More On-Ramps and Off-Ramps](https://moderncampus.com/podcast/episode-254) 

[Learn More →](https://moderncampus.com/podcast/episode-254)

[![Episode 253: The Road From Classroom to Career](https://moderncampus.com/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/illumintation-by-modern-campus-Mar-13-2026-07-20-49-1429-PM.png) ](https://moderncampus.com/podcast/episode-253)

[Episode 253: The Road From Classroom to Career](https://moderncampus.com/podcast/episode-253) 

[Learn More →](https://moderncampus.com/podcast/episode-253)

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